I strongly suggest that you may sometimes take the time to travel a little and open your horizons. I'm grateful for your honesty, I sure know it's not easy to find the courage to admit when things are not peachy. But the weather, transport, lack of culture and food contribute to why I've spent the majority of my adult live in New Zealand. I now live full-time in Germany and just enjoy the lifestyle better. Dream! It always rains. [citation needed], The large supermarket chain Asda has attempted to trademark the word "chav" for a line of confectionery. I was robbed in broad daylight too on another occasion. Finally, to address the point on immigration.I actually blame previous governments to a large extent. [22] The widespread use of the "chav" stereotype has been criticised. Hi Brian, thank you for your insightful message. Im scared for the future of my children and have never been so ashamed to be british! It is used in envy by the lily livered, privileged, pale, besuited bank clerk who sees people dressed up to the nines and going to the West End." It's no. People like you make me all the more happier that Leave and Trump won, and you know, those liberal leftie tears are so very sweet! I am seriously looking to emigrate, do a tour of Scotland first and then see what the rest of the world has to offer. What I find interesting is how xenophobic the North of England is when a high proportion of very intelligent immigrants work for the NHS and treat them in hospitals, and yet there is a very tangible dislike for foreigners. I needed to work as a student as I didn't have rich parents to support me. Think why that is. The responses are more illuminating, reminding me, a Brit, of how and why I want out.good luck with what comes your way I found it. It's also quite scary how a lot of those people, like myself, who were born and bred in the UK, due to racism and mistreatment, clasp their hands in glee as the UK makes wrong decision after wrong decision. ), and the always fast pace. We are both honest people, law-abiding citizens who pay taxes as individuals and as a company. I wish we would have governments who encourage peace and education, as opposed to war. Where would you like to live? Blackburn - the least worst town on the list (. I say keep traveling and find places that you can afford to have a decent life and by that I don't mean buying 'stuff' settle for much less but a good lifestyle. Discourse on chavs in contemporary Britain has been widely implicated in the . In an ideal world none of these things should matter. The review reads: "Staines, the very name conjures up a vision of chav-ridden, rubbish . "Chav" may have its origins in the Romani word "chavi", meaning "child". (Has the author been to 'Bradistan' in West Yorks?). We are at the stage of "Where to now?" This is not the case in the UK. From my experience the world has a habit of reminding people about the best things in the UK. Try to own more than one property in many countries and you will really feel the heat from the taxman. Kind Regards. What do you describe in terms of the hate towards foreigners and outright xenophobia you have faced its home to me now in a way I fully understand. As a writer, I thrived during rainy days as melancholia hit. And thank you for mentioning how expensive it is to live in the UK! I definitely feel you on this, although maybe not to the extent that you do as I am an American who lives in Prague and has lived in Wales and France. I planned to stay and study there with my family for six months before moving somewhere more sunny and exotic, (precisely for that injection of British 'culture' and 'opportunity' ), but was worried about the current Brexit climate. This is middle class hatred of the white working class, pure and simple. Despite the handful of people who try hard to make xenophobia go away, there are so many who still claim immigrants are bad for this country. Reflecting back, much of the racism I experienced and felt was in the media: TV and especially Press. That's a lot, isn't it? Most UK people are welcoming so please don't group us all together. It's very hard to leave! P.S Stacy/Stacey could be both spellings. My husband and I made the big move from Australia to the US in 2015. We're spending 2017 living out of bags - currently in Portugal, soon heading to Morocco and Albania, the maybe Italy before SE Asia. Let's hope things improve for us who are staying, and good luck with your future ! For more than a year we are still trying to find our home. Net migration of 300,000 per year on an island with 64 million inhabitants is unsustainable, especially when most of the population lives in a corridor between Leeds / Manchester and London. I just could not understand why the land of my dreams was not working for me. So which country is the worst then? Dear Rhiannon, thank you for your comment. Im not alone. You are laughable, John! So many Britons get worked up & lash out at any/all criticism of the U.K. but I think thats part of the problem - no one is brave enough to address the problems. Such an insightful piece of writing! I've found people angry and bitter, jealous of our "success" so shunning us, mad at the whole world and blaming the new family down the street rather than reflecting on how their own attitudes drive down the areas we live in. Nearly 1% of the population were new immigrants every year !!! These problems in the UK will change perhaps in 300 years, we cannot wait. I guess it's a "grass is always greener" situation for all of us lately. Garlicky paprika chicken stews and bakes. It was a difficult decision for us to move back from the UK , and I would be lying if I said we do not have second thoughts about moving back again! I mean I left Romania because I didn't like it and wanted a better life for myself. You can rent a PO box for your business and move it there. After Brexit, I really didn't want to be here any more. I still love visiting friends and family in London, do some sight seeing but that's it. Maybe capitalism has encouraged too much greed? I only just came across your article. But the point is I don't feel British any more and I know a lot of people who feel the same. After having lived in Canada (citizen), USA (Green Card) worked across the world including Australia, Middle East, most countries in the EU visited many other countries, it is my opinion that the UK is crap. At the time I just thought he was thinking ahh we don't really have capacity thats annoying because this person looks good. You write an entire article telling folk about the benefits of open borders and 'cultural enrichment', and yet you admit that your worst experiences were in the far left and immigrant-infested cities of London and Bristol, and you're happyin the conservative and very English North Yorkshire. Obviously! I contributed to this country well more than an average Brit who still believes is superior to me despite his qualifications being 4 GCSEs . Just waiting for the contract on my house to run out in July. Nevertheless, UK like other places needs a new vision. Mass immigration or controlled immigration will not change the way a Briton chooses whether to invite a foreigner for a cup of tea or shepherd's pie. Hi Kaylene, I can't wait to read more about your solo adventures. Macron says the French would vote to leave the EU if they had the chance and Italy is more anti-EU than the UK. The shed is accessed by removing two loose boards at the rear. It's not as simple though that everyone voting leave agrees with Farage and Boris. If you still believe this is not possible, take me and my husband as examples. It makes me sad to read this. Anyone who would kick you out for "bad spelling" must be crazy. Plus, all the great writers and scientists coming from here made me think the educational system would be wonderful. The opportunity to be free and to express freedom of thought is still prevalent in this country that he now lives in, albeit in his matchbox house. But seriously, I'm sad that you don't feel safe anymore. It sucks that you can't wear a dress unless you go on holiday. You are from Romania but you don't want to live there? Susie Dent's Larpers and Shroomers: The Language Report, published by the Oxford University Press, designated it as the "word of the year"[29] in 2004. You cant have all the decisions go your way. Sorry to hear they treated you like shit for being a foreigner in the U.K, yet sadly, it doesnt surprise me. The jet engine you use to travel the world yes, British too.. I will go further and suggest there is a lot of naivety amongst younger generations around the world. I have a partner and were happy but other than that relationship I have no fulfilment. We're thinking of moving away as soon as I've finished my studies for many of the same reasons as the ones you mentioned. A mark of this growing idiocy is the fact that a circus clown like Jacob Rees-Mogg can play a part in politics. Bay Area of AMERICA itself THRIVES off of diversity and people all over the world (whether they are black, Latino, Asian or EU) -- what you're stating as facts about the USA seem like half-baked observations, because clearly you don't know how diverse US is in opinion, culture and tolerance. America has visionaries like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel advising Trump. A passport country that doesn't accept me the way I am due to my ethnic heritage, global upbringing, and different cultural views. And this got me thinkingin fact, no! You've written an incredible and brilliant post here, Cory! [20], In a February 2005 article in The Times, Julie Burchill argued that use of the word is a form of "social racism", and that such "sneering" reveals more about the shortcomings of the "chav-haters" than those of their supposed victims. Then millions on renegotiating deals with countries who don't need the UK. Cory, thanks for your article. I was stunned by Brexit and very sad as well, it foreshadowed the US elections. We left our home in Germany on the border to Switzerland because we had had enough of the discriminatory behaviour of many Swiss towards 'outsiders' (many German professionals are cross-border commuters for work) and now we find ourselves in the same situation, again. But the vast majority of people in the UK seem to be relatively well off. I wish you happiness :), I got in Uk 17 years ago , a child 20 at that time ,didnt know what the future holds .Moving on , two children now, a house in mortgages, and a difficult financial situation. Better climates and more outdoor life. As a Brit, I can say that most of what you say is true. "Chav hang outs include an old fisherman's shed in the harbour and a derelict caravan in a field near the eastern end of the village. There is no way you had to give up Indian citizenship. May is freezing! Politicians are liars (we've been promised more money for academia and the NHS). I think your article raises some very good points, however, I would add the following. I'm going to start by saying that it wasn't always like this. Every time mum came to visit, she always said how much she loves shopping for food in the UK. I went to Scotland once and the highlands is very beautiful, but also rained a lot. And, the Americans assisted in WWII yes, however even you can't say if that was the ultimate reason why we ended up victorious in that war. :). I tried to live in London, it lasted a few months. Great article :-), Dear Elise, thank you for your comment. Your candour proves me wrong about you racist, poor, thick bits. You have NO IDEA that you have written exactly what I feel. However, what I got was the complete opposite :). indeed. Travelling: 150 for a return ticket halfway across England is expensive? [28] Writer Owen Jones also criticised the use of the term in his book Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class. About 12 years ago when I came to study in Manchester, Britain was a different place. I also felt a lack of sense of community and I witnessed the "foreigner stares" a few times, especially when they talked too fast and I couldn't understand them (and I am fluent in English since I was 10!) I'm lucky as I have both a New Zealand and UK passport so doors are always open to me. Whether you decided to stay home in the UK or embark on an adventure in some distant land, I wish you health, wealth and happiness. By the sound of things, we have improved immeasurably as a country if you've left. My Portuguese friend said the Portuguese just want to live in the beach, but the Brits try to be something more than they are. Since we are freelancers and we are location independent, we realised there are better places more suitable for our current lifestyle. The UK blows fat d*ck in all aspects. Being British born myself I have seen how Britain has changed for the worst over the last decade or so and am now trying to convince my husband for us to move abroad somewhere where we can have hotter weather, more reasonable housing and public transport costs, a salary which accurately reflects the amount of work and education that goes into your job and an overall better lifestyle. Stay safe! Thanks for sharing! The best years were probably (economically and socially) from mid 1990's, 1993 until 2008 (esp the boom Blair years). Our place as a locus of brilliance during the Industrial Revolution was unquestioned. I asked for proof to see what I spelt wrong and on how many occasions. However it was one of the most dissapointing moves in my life. The weather and the cost of housing compared to net salary are also the 2 biggies for me. I still remember, I was in the exam rooms in University and would imagine that I am in a special exam room in Hogwarts. (Not saying that everyone in the North is racist, nor am I saying no Southerners are racist - just a generalisation). [33] The Times has referred to the character as "[a] chavvish girl",[34] and the character has been said to possess a "chav accent". Please read again . The perception is Britain 'easy' - do what you want, whatevers. [27] Use of the term 'chav' was reported in The Guardian in 2011 as "class abuse by people asserting superiority". Sure, the in the average pub food isnt so amazing here. That level of institutionalised class violence and prejudice is not something I want to be associated with. She travels full time with her husband and is passionate about creating in-depth travel guides. Will I ever go back to the UK? There are a lot of pros and cons when it comes to living in the UK and for the sake of objectivity, I would like to tackle all points in this article. Hence, the low growth and high house prices in London and SE. I had a really interesting reaction reading this. Good luck on your move and finding the sun. people do it. Why live like that if you don't have to! I've lived in both. Perhaps a better question would . There are too many issues which make the UK a depressing place to be. Again, they were blind-sided by empty promises of a better NHS, "more jobs" and "less immigrants". great article, summarises all I ended up thinking about the UK four years after moving here. I am bisexual and growing up in Romania vs UK are two different worlds - yes, Romanians were way more tolerant than British kids who physically abused and bullied me. 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