Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. The Crime Review Group already have the information that I request. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. Thanks again! They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. Learn more about managing a memorial . It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Great questions! My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Video, 00:01:20, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Required fields are marked *. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . Bethell was thrilled to discover that on the back of the coat, a no-longer visible dried semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. Bethell sent the coat toDr. Colin Dark, and over the course of three years (MUCH longer than depicted on television and in the movies) Bethell analyzed the material and was able to extract enough fragments of DNA tosuccessfully create a Y-STR profile from the semen stain. <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. "My grandparents changed completely. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. Thank you Christine. It was tracked down to a store room, in a current police station, in a very dark corner. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Hi Neil. She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Play it now! And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Happier times: Alex Murdaugh, Maggie and their sons are the picture-perfect family in never-before-seen photos taken on a hunting trip just a few years before brutal slayings, 'Why isn't he being prosecuted?' Read about our approach to external linking. 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On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? Positive reviews really help others find our show. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. sample from Harold Jones daughter. Muriel N Drinkwater (born Maker) was born on month day 1903, at birth place, to Thomas L Maker and Margaret L Maker (born Baum). So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. Follow. . The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. 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"[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Up Next. taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts found a semen stain found on Muriel's coat. The police statement that Jones was ruled out is a misleading statement. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County This post deals with sexual assault and might be triggering for some readers. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. Posted by 8 minutes ago. 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Nevertheless, local legend tells of how, after leaving prison, he'd return to his parents' house in Abertillery from time to time, where the sound of him playing the organ in their front room would haunt the terraced streets. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. 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In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. Advertisement. I really appreciate your local insights. Also that they likely watched Muriel and knew her route. Evernote. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. I agree with the killer being male and the suggested age range. Hi Neil. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. Hi. Hard to work out the logic of your comment Charlotte? 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