To the authorities, it was a ridiculous notion that they would not entertain so they did not follow on numerous leads coming from people who had seen someone corresponding to that description. Simply because I researched them. Instead of grieving, Alice went partying and had sex. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. Not our place to decide. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. Fred Hugi was pretty upset when Ann Rule went Hollywood with his case. What was the justification? Lets not take that lightly. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. Everything was in the bag and ready for trial. Libby, I quoted what Diane said. For the children to be legally free for adoption a termination of parental rights had to occur. During the process of the termination (which can take the whole 2 years in question, with appeals) the court is mandated to find family to take the children. It should have been investigated further. The fruit of this abduction was the May 23, 1983, videotape re-enactment staged by Detective Tracy in which Diane is clearly hysterical. Not hard to go there. It should be illegal to use real names and facts from a criminal case while influencing the publicto falselybelieve that the whole content of the filmis true. Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. The GSR? Conflict of interest on steroids!! Likewise, Charlene had no intention of letting Knick divorce her (Appendix 81, page 1518, line 15). please express them and I will print them. How.. they attacked him. The lack of balance and objectivity. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). Another conflict of interest. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. I also grew up in as time of the most infamous case in Australias judicial history: Lindy Chamberlain and the dingo stole my baby. Theres a lot to be said here, still. Three weeks after the crime, Judge Foote from family courts, removed Danny and Christie from the care of Diane Downs and her family. The tape of Christie and her adoption by the prosecutor are facts. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. This was ridiculed countless times in the media, but frankly, it can be a very honorable endeavor, depending onhow you want to look at it. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. N u pleaded guilty of murdering ur husband. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy. I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. The roller coaster ride had nothing to do with Diane s children and Diane knew it. This whole tale is just unbelievable. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. To have separated Christie from her brother and the rest of the family to be able to get her mom was unconscionable. Yes, I had to go and sign the lease, yes, sir. All the reports and even the warden thought she was not a threat anymore. There were many problems with her trial and that matters. But I am realistic. Her daughter told the media she watched Small Sacrifices several times. I worked for county child welfare services in Colorado for a decade. Seems to me that if that part of the story were true, and she really wanted to find her childrens shooter, she would have provided that information. The fact that the DA adopted the children, since it was after the trial, is more of a gray area. But you are right to say that it is my site. In Rules book, Diane is portrayed as a horrible selfish mother but her family and friends saw another version; she lovedher childrendearly and worked hard to be a good provider. Yes, dad relinquished his rights but he knew that they loved their grandparents and had allowed Diane to take them for a visit without telling the authorities. This is also what the state did to her. What was the rationale behind this? It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. Knicks habit of turning on and turning off their relationship was known to Diane long before he admitted it in court a year later (Appendix 81, page 1520, line 21): Q. Her flat affect is even more pronounced now and it did her in at the time, but she was lucid enough to clearly see that Rule and the media used Becky for their personal gain. But in their defense, they were told at trial what gun was used by Diane to shoot the kids and it must have been very difficult to overcome the emotions brought on by the words of little Christie even if it was pretty obvious during her testimony that she was confused and unreliable. Not meaning to sound disrespectful, but you seem to be doing what you accuse Ann Rule of doing. Fred Hugi looks nothing like Jim Jagger. Rule made up stories to sell books and the rights to a movie. Spiritual advancement and atonement? Their goal was to make Dian look crazy, because sane people dont shoot their children. Page 6 of Case History. Except after the idea was subsequently planted in his head only to be alluded to in court, in spite of an agreement to never mention the subject. Nearly every point you make here was addressed and disproved or not even allowed into evidence. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. Steven and Diane married on November 13, 1973. Why would anyone think Christie could remember the night of the shooting anyway?? On June 2nd, 1983, Juvenile Court Judge Gregory Foote held a hearing to take Christie and Danny away from ALL blood family (thus isolating them). So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? It goes on and on. Thanks again. Downs, born Elizabeth Diane Frederickson, was a 27-year-old divorced postal worker when she pulled up outside a hospital in Oregon in May 1983. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. Lise,,,,, yes you did. I just tried to find a video or article about Hugi and I only get the one or two that I already have. All smoke and mirrors to fit a certain scenario. Someone said to me that any of us, if scrutinized under a microscope, would come out looking pretty bad. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. Ask them what they did to a good man. I hope this would never fly these days to separate wounded children from the only family members they have. Considering that the marks on the lethal bullets did not fit the bullet fingerprinting found in the rifle, this gun switcheroo was a good save for the state, but did not support the theory presented at trial either. In hindsight Im sure the grandparents wish they had pursued visitation more aggressively. Her character was also too much on the forefront. They checked her shoes and they were clean. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. But you would know that if you had read the blog or info about the case. This is what I try to do when I research a case that was deemed to be a slam dunk. lol. The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. They said she was going slow but the time at which she arrived seems to indicate otherwise. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. And the state refusing to turn them over to the defense? The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . The authorities wanted to see them mourn and fall apart. Cheryl was shot twice in the back and one of the bullets ended up on the floorboard. TIL On May 19, 1983, Diane Downs shot her three children and drove them at 5-7 mph to the hospital. And some are even contradictory: shes mentally ill, but also not mentally ill; the site owner wants to focus on pure facts, yet ignore other facts; things happened in court, but those are irrelevant to what else what also happened in court, etc. And yes, its your site, but dont act like a site is open for discussion if its not. Yep, Downs who was found guilty in 1984, escaped successfully from the Oregon Womens Correctional Center in 1987 and was transferred to Jersey afterwards. Dianewas jealous ofthe other woman, but Robert Knickerbockers wife said that she foundher rather friendly during their encounter. The grandparents were babysitting the children often and had several children who were well adjusted. I try to bring up the elements that were totally ignored. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The flesh and muscle had been cored three days earlier, but the steel plate and bone graft could not be effected for two weeks (a precaution against infection). Diane is not a killer or a liar! Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. The kind of TV series that they produce on high profile crimes will make sure to turn public opinion. Basically then at that I was being sarcastic. But Ann Rules utterly biased account is an insult to investigative journalism and there seems to be very reasonable doubt here. Foote denied the motion and declared you have an attorney, use him.. My comment wont change their opinion on the barbarity of the American legal system, media influences and Ann Rules input. I like to believe the best about people too but there are certain things that absolutely cant be ignored. Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. It's February 28, 2023, and Luke Schenn was just traded to the . I do have to take issue with this article about Diane Downs. She took care of herself not her children. Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. Yeah, Ive noticed a lot of people thing Jim Jagger is Fred Hugi. Diane now had the title of dangerous offender. Dianes daughter started saying that she did not know who shot them right when she got adopted. I mean, yeah, I can see the no contact order with Diane. It was demonstrated at trial that the shooter shot the kids at close range. Someone found guilty of a crime should have a sentence that can be served and not one that is contingent on the remorse shown. And once again, considering that she was diagnosed as bipolar, did not help her cause. Yet in their mind, she was already guilty. She had one arm totally out of commission. Children under the age of twelve may cognitively grasp the concept of truth and lie, but lack the conscience which compels people to apply the concept to their lives, or the strength to maintain the truth when adults coerce her to lie. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control. She did it. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom: I guess? Instead, it is Diane who fought to keep her children. answer the question why didn't steve downs get custody, which will help you get the most accurate answer. So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? The hell with doubts, ballistics and pesky details about the shooting, we cannot disagree becausethere is hunting and fishing to do and friendships to uphold. He knows as he was in court and must have photos. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. I wanted to ask you something on this case. Even more now with hindsight because of the gun and the fact that her daughter kind of recanted by demonstrating that if pushed, she will say what is expected of her. More reason to have investigated the case more thoroughly. A slightly humorous observation is that you said, and others have, that James Haynes physically resembled the sketch.. But without proof, Diane couldnt implicate Steve Downs any more than she could shoot him as he violated a restraining order threatening to beat her AGAIN. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. They sure forgot to tell us about her pulse racing during these sessions. At the point Diane jumped into the car, her broken arm (resting in a sling in front of her) slammed into the steering wheel. If Oregonians were not all convinced at first, the media and the crown made sure they would be. There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. Accused of her side of the story what the state says how would it be possible for her to do what they presumed. Not right at all. This is a fascinating and informative article that has answered some questions I had, and prompted others: 1. Fair question. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? I did not shoot my children.. The proverbial expression It takes two to tango applies here. Ann Rule has always been sensationalist, and her books were almost unreadable at the end of her publishing days. Right after the shooting, little Danny would ask the nurses, , Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that, Every time, she said she did not know, they told her to think again and made suggestions. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive. I actually can relate to things she did and was like, especially chasing after a guy that dont want youi did one night stands during my chase..to try to get over himits was a dumb idea and really made things worse, but it made sense at the time. They should have left her alone. They examined her clothes also. Clickhere to read about faulty ballistics. 3. It probably was not salacious enough for her readers that she polled online to establish if there was enough interest in the story to fill her pockets with a definite blockbuster. tell someone else. Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. Speculative? The prosecutor would gently shake his head and the good judge would follow with a ruling. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song Hungry like the Wolf that supposedly was playing when the children were shot in the car. 3. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. I wasnt there and the records will never be brought to light as far as the child welfare case. So should I put an addendum saying that Diane contradicted herself or was not satisfied with the sketch? An earlier commenter wrote that it doesnt matter that the trail or the investigation was faultyWHAT !? I mean if a guy admits to killing children over and over, shouldnt we pay attention to that? I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. A. I dont recall telling her to get an apartment. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. Are you still taking comments by email? She was no mother of the year, I will grant them that, but a trial is supposed to be based on evidence. By the way, that interview with Christie by a biased advocate named Angel borders on abusive. I didnt know that. If I included the ones I dont post, it would need more than a like or dislike button. Hugi did not want that. Phenobarbital was administered alongside the Dilantin. It was faulty. Ive done my research. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture. No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. And how the letters became so bizarre, paranoid and psychotic that she told Diane to stop writing her. The photo of Hugi I used is the one you find when you do a search online for Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs. Mr. Jagger said it wasnt t enough to know a witness had lied, but she would have to prove it. Maybe someone needs to read Part two in Dr. Billings in-depth review of the Diane Downs Murder Case in Oregon. Are we to believe that Proctors second gun was stolen with the bill and ID from the first gun that remained listed at the gun store? Ann Rule did not leave a great legacy as far as honest reporting goes, and she is not the only one to have commercialized a criminal case for personal gain. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. So Mark, where are you from? Diane wanted to wait for her daughter to feel better, be accompanied by an expert and have the meetings taped? But the birth of little Danny did not make this bad boy change his stripes; he remained a cad and a destabilizing force in their lives. Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Of course I saw movie first, then read the bookI wanted more, sadly early Internet days, there wasnt much out there, as far as info or video, picturesnothing really. No forensic evidence pointing to her, just conjecture based on how mothers should act. I appreciate the way you dont try to determine guilt or innocence in your blogs but instead focus on due process and the right of all to a fair trial. What about the fact that they never found the gun? We make them president!!!! Five doctors have observed and documented this phenomenon. It was Judge Footes first criminal case and it was against a woman whose children he had removed from her care even though she had not been convicted or sentenced; a conflict of interest and pure madness. We could say that it was suggestive on his part, but considering how this trial was conducted, I tend to believe it happened. Is it too late to respond to this? She was fighting back and they did not like it. You need real evidence in court. Diane downs. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. I dont know that it could get worse than writing an asinine comment on a restorative justice website that states that only respectful and constructive comments will be posted. The Cinemaholic reports that Steve was often known for being immature and irresponsible, something that didn't see their rekindled relationship get off to the best start. There were days she was unhappy to see the staff and her family because she was very ill. That poor girl had a lot of bad moments where she would cry constantly or trigger the machines and to have defined this single incident as one of terror instead of excitement over seeing her mom was biased and self-serving. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy: Relevance? Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. It wasnt until Prosecutor Hugi said Dr. Jamison had labeled Diane a deviant sociopath that Mr. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? Diane didnt ask Knick to leave his wife. Did u learn nothing?? The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. Yes, Christie said she did not know who did it. Dianes brother, James, sat in court one day andnoticed Foote looking at Hugi before ruling on an objection. Then, they accused her of shooting her kids at close range. After completing his education and their short-lived high school romance, Steve Downs would move on to join the navy. After arriving at the nearest hospital where the nursing staff and doctors attended to the children, the police were called in and her parents arrived promptly. That conflict of interest alone would incline Christie to testify against her mother. To Lisa Griggs That her child was basically forced to admit that she saw her mom shoot them? I recently found your website and have enjoyed it a lot. Diane Frederickson was born August 7, 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. She attacked her husband and ripped his neck open in a jealous rage (Appendix 81, page 1520), tearing from his neck the gold chain he still wore from his first marriage (a gift from his first wife). The fact that she took the kids to the nearest hospital, andtwo of them survived kind offlies in the face of their murder at all costs theory. I dont. Diane has not been deemed an ongoing public threat that I am aware of. Great question. It probably makes you feel so good. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. I have worked in Child Protection for over 20 years and have extensive experience in this field domestically and internationally. No excuse there. For example, the abhorrent decision regarding Keli Lane: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.whimn.com.au/talk/news/why-i-think-keli-lane-should-not-be-in-prison/news-story/069a09c79589645c48de5bfa91e4ca0f. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. He could not during the marriage so he walked away. Teen Mom 2 alum Jenelle Evans and her mom, Barbara Evans, have been feuding over custody of Jenelle's son, Jace in addition to many other issues for over a decade. Makes no difference to me. She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. Hysteria. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. If you have an opinion on drugging a child to make her talk, a judge presiding over a criminal case when he was in family court and removed the children from the defendants or the forensics, ballistic, etc. I am sorry but I got to laugh a little. There is only one major problem with your scenario. In fact, if someone was Hungry like the Wolf in this courtroom, it was a certain crime author who could already smell and taste the fortune coming her way after the publication of this juicy story. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. Oh my. In what world is that O.K. Knick never signed the premarital agreement and Diane never married him. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. What about the affidavits of the guy who confessed to several people? Gosh Donna, you really dont have a clue. And the flat affect and sometimes inappropriate smiling would come with the territory so you cannot judge her actions without taking into account that she might not have been acting according to the norms. And her mental health should definitely have been a factor to release her with follow up care. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. I know several foster parents and social workers. She wanted a lawyer to defend her vigorously but the judge stopped her from getting good representation. Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. Surely before Diane downs, there were other mothers who killed their kids..or allegedly did, however in 83 and 84 it made national news, nothing quite like it had come across the media world, which during that decade was really skyrocketing in sensationalismI believe is where it started, becoming less news and more entertainment. For all my life I have thought I was not that smart, but now I can tell myself, hey cheer up could be worse. Dianes family could give you countless examples of the inaccuracies they found in her book. There was a lot of evidence pointing at OJ. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. Steve Howey and Sarah Shahi both grew up in the Lone Star state but their romance didn't begin until they were both acting in Los Angeles. why didn't steve downs get custody. I will take a screen shot of the sketch. If it doesnt matter to you, it should. I found nothing. I think that she has done enough time and should be released. Of course. It will not make me popular, but I dont mind. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? Christie became the star witness against her mother and who could resist such a touching testimony? The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. I have no dog in this race. It is said that they didn't go to Steve because he wasn't a fit father or well equipped to take care of children who had gone through such a traumatic experience. They rarely are, especially in the US. Jul 3, 2022; fotomontajes de amor para dos personas; Comments: pete walker complex ptsd website; The implication was not only cruel, in the light of what Diane was suffering, it was also clear. Im glad you continued to look for more information as time went on. This whole case is flawed. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. I write about cases where due process is in question and important aspects were ignored or twisted. Conflicting reports say Downs also acted as a surrogate during her fourth pregnancy, giving birth to a daughter after her trial in 1984. They were put in an impossible situation. I care about what was said at trial. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. It was one of the most disturbing stories I've watched. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. 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